View Full Version : Aztec blocked shots
indwelling3
02-17-2011, 09:27 AM
I did not see the game but listened to the game on the radio. Scott D's first comment on the conclusion of the game was that he felt the difference in the game was the 9 blocked shots that SDSU mustered (and not the Lobo turnovers). He figured that produced from 10-15 points for the Aztecs and was the difference. If this was the case, did the Lobos fail because they went to the rim so often and did not score plus the transition baskets the Aztecs got as a consequence?
Also in the pregame radio show Coach Alford pointed out that SDSU has only one point guard, and he plays nearly 40 minutes every game. I took that to mean that by tournament time the Aztecs are going to have a mighty tired out guy at the point. We all know hwat happened last year against UW. We had a worn out Dairese Gary low on gas by the time of the Big Show. Maybe if in the MWC tournament we face SDSU a third time, this will catch up with SDSU.
Aztecs are long and athletic. They blocked a Tony Snell 3 point attempt I believe. They also altered another Tony Snell 3 point attempt from the top of the key (I think Tony didn't even hit the rim on tht one). Their blocks were more than the inside variety. Also at least one or two came on layups where it appeared there may have been a goaltend.
At least two goaltends. Thomas just smacks everything no matter how late he is getting there, got away with it on a couple of occasions last night. One was the momentum changer at the start of the second half leading to a dunk.
Lobo_J
02-17-2011, 09:42 AM
Yep, a couple of Gary's layups got pinned (slammed) against the backboard by White. Close to goaltending on one.
MRLobo
02-17-2011, 09:45 AM
Aztecs are long and athletic. They blocked a Tony Snell 3 point attempt I believe. They also altered another Tony Snell 3 point attempt from the top of the key (I think Tony didn't even hit the rim on tht one). Their blocks were more than the inside variety. Also at least one or two came on layups where it appeared there may have been a goaltend.
I thought whites block on the Gary layup was definitely a goal tend. The mtn never showed a good replay though.
Fideos
02-17-2011, 10:09 AM
I DVRed the game, the 2nd one definitely was a goaltend, the first one by Thomas was questionable but looked like a goaltend. They didn't show any replays of the 1st one so it was a little harder to tell but they both look like goaltends to me. Not only were they goaltends IMO, but they totally changed the momentum of the game. SDSU got easy buckets off both so in a sense there was an 8 point turn around there.
timvracer
02-17-2011, 10:15 AM
We have to start doing the same. There really is no penalty to goal-tending, and you will get away with it 50% of the time, which outweighs the negative of potentially getting a call on a shot that wouldn't have fallen in otherwise.
It's just odds, and the way the games are called, the right play is to goal-tend at every reasonable opportunity (layups, fast breaks, put-backs). The other bonus is that a goal-tend does open up the offense on the other side to a fast-break point, and as pointed out, is a momentum play when not called (blocks are energizing).
Play the odds.
Catcus Jim
02-17-2011, 10:20 AM
I did not see the game but listened to the game on the radio. Scott D's first comment on the conclusion of the game was that he felt the difference in the game was the 9 blocked shots that SDSU mustered (and not the Lobo turnovers). He figured that produced from 10-15 points for the Aztecs and was the difference. If this was the case, did the Lobos fail because they went to the rim so often and did not score plus the transition baskets the Aztecs got as a consequence?
Also in the pregame radio show Coach Alford pointed out that SDSU has only one point guard, and he plays nearly 40 minutes every game. I took that to mean that by tournament time the Aztecs are going to have a mighty tired out guy at the point. We all know hwat happened last year against UW. We had a worn out Dairese Gary low on gas by the time of the Big Show. Maybe if in the MWC tournament we face SDSU a third time, this will catch up with SDSU.
In the Washington game Dairese may have been and probably was tired, but I doubt that it cost us the game. He was 11 - 20 FG`s, 3 - 5 FT`s, for a total of 25 pts 4 rebounds, 4 assists, and only 2 to`s and he played 32 min.
mikexom
02-17-2011, 10:31 AM
Am surprised Alford did not go after DJ Gay a bit more but maybe KW having a rough night and spending more time on the bench stopped him from doing that?
VWolf
02-17-2011, 10:38 AM
I did not see the game but listened to the game on the radio. Scott D's first comment on the conclusion of the game was that he felt the difference in the game was the 9 blocked shots that SDSU mustered (and not the Lobo turnovers). He figured that produced from 10-15 points for the Aztecs and was the difference. If this was the case, did the Lobos fail because they went to the rim so often and did not score plus the transition baskets the Aztecs got as a consequence?
Also in the pregame radio show Coach Alford pointed out that SDSU has only one point guard, and he plays nearly 40 minutes every game. I took that to mean that by tournament time the Aztecs are going to have a mighty tired out guy at the point. We all know hwat happened last year against UW. We had a worn out Dairese Gary low on gas by the time of the Big Show. Maybe if in the MWC tournament we face SDSU a third time, this will catch up with SDSU.
I disagree. The turnovers, most of them unforced, were the main difference in the game. If we had just two of them back, silly turnovers that would have been break away layups, we are tied at the end. The Lobos got the ball back after some of the blocks and I don't recall SDSU getting many transition buckets after a block, even though they surely got a couple after some turnovers. The transition hoop after a block that stands out in my mind was when it was an obvious goaltend. Instead of going for the rebound and getting back on D, Gordon stood still and signaled goaltend. Easy bucket for SDSU, but it wasn't just the block, but the lack of effort by the Lobos after.
Unnnhhhh......Lobos had 8 blocks. A push?
Turnovers hurt, but both teams took and made almost the same amount of field goals, and we made the same # of 3's, but they shot 14 more free throws and made 8 more than we did ------------ game.
VWolf
02-17-2011, 11:02 AM
Unnnhhhh......Lobos had 8 blocks. A push?
Turnovers hurt, but both teams took and made almost the same amount of field goals, and we made the same # of 3's, but they shot 14 more free throws and made 8 more than we did ------------ game.
It seemed like the Aztecs shot free throws every possession in the second half.
sdsuphilip
02-17-2011, 11:40 AM
It seemed like the Aztecs shot free throws every possession in the second half.
Thats what happens when you get 10 free throws cause of intential fouling in the last 33 seconds.
As for Gay some guys get tired at different rate than others, even if they have virtually the same body, coming into last night D.J had only 1 turnover in 7 games
VWolf
02-17-2011, 12:08 PM
Thats what happens when you get 10 free throws cause of intential fouling in the last 33 seconds.
As for Gay some guys get tired at different rate than others, even if they have virtually the same body, coming into last night D.J had only 1 turnover in 7 games
No, I wasn't just talking about the last 33 seconds. The Aztecs shot 31 free throws and 29 of them came in the second half. To be clear that was just an annoyance. It took some of the fun out of watching the game. I don't think the Lobos lost because of the officiating edge but because of the turnovers.
FemBone
02-17-2011, 12:54 PM
Let's just agree, yet again, that MWC refs just suck. Period. Bad calls and noncalls both ways. I haven't see the recording yet but there was one sequence where Brian Carlwell was mugged and no foul was called and then on the other end he mugged a Lobo (can't remember who) to the ground and THAT wasn't called. Make-up NON-call? There was one call where a particularly loud pep band member (no, not me) said "I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT CALL" and the ref actually looked up at him and frowned. Are there ANY in this conference that don't suck? Any?
MichLobo
02-17-2011, 12:56 PM
Also in the pregame radio show Coach Alford pointed out that SDSU has only one point guard, and he plays nearly 40 minutes every game. I took that to mean that by tournament time the Aztecs are going to have a mighty tired out guy at the point. We all know hwat happened last year against UW. We had a worn out Dairese Gary low on gas by the time of the Big Show. Maybe if in the MWC tournament we face SDSU a third time, this will catch up with SDSU.
The way I remember the UW game at the end of last year is Dairese was the only guy that didnt look like he was out of gas. He had a hell of a game, 25 points i believe. Dairese came to play that night and went down brawling. I was proud of him.
The way I remember the UW game at the end of last year is Dairese was the only guy that didnt look like he was out of gas. He had a hell of a game, 25 points i believe. Dairese came to play that night and went down brawling. I was proud of him.
He looked like a man among our Lobo boys.
PitNicker
02-17-2011, 04:28 PM
Aztecs are long and athletic. They blocked a Tony Snell 3 point attempt I believe. They also altered another Tony Snell 3 point attempt from the top of the key (I think Tony didn't even hit the rim on tht one). Their blocks were more than the inside variety. Also at least one or two came on layups where it appeared there may have been a goaltend.
I think most of those examples were Leonard. He can cover some pretty vast distances in a short amount of time. He got called for a foul on one, on a 3 point attempt late, but the fact he got to Snell at all was pretty amazing. Dude's a stud. I'm telling you...he's Rodman with a shot and a handle.
I think most of those examples were Leonard. He can cover some pretty vast distances in a short amount of time. He got called for a foul on one, on a 3 point attempt late, but the fact he got to Snell at all was pretty amazing. Dude's a stud. I'm telling you...he's Rodman with a shot and a handle.
Yes, he's pretty amazing, but Tony should not have been caught by surprise in terms of how much distance he can cover. Tony was his teammate in high school, so he should be very aware of his unique talents. As I've said before, Kawhi has better NBA potential than Jimmer.
PitNicker
02-18-2011, 05:39 AM
No, you're right. Kind of important to know where Leonard is on the court, especially since he seems to have kind of free rein on defense. Sometimes it looks like he's playing Urlacher's Lobo position.
wolf1960
02-18-2011, 07:27 AM
Leonard is everywhere at anytime... GO TO THE NBA Leonard... We need some shot pump fakes before shooting, we get a couple of fouls on the leapers and they back off..
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