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    Ya don't think we can say we are loaded at any position until we see some game production.

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    We might have eight running backs on the roster, but none of these guys is a top-level stud that can't be beaten out. Ronnie's missed too much practice time to be a legitimate contender to win the starting spot right out of the gate, but could contribute to the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRLobo View Post
    Ya don't think we can say we are loaded at any position until we see some game production.
    Remington was interviewed on 770 the other night and said the 74 scholarship number is misleading. I think he said really only 62-63 came to Lobo Football on scholarship. The rest are walkons awards schollies for various reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobodawg92 View Post
    You mean like Alford and JR?
    At UNM you must take risk on some occasions but there is a time and a place, UNM football is not the bellweather of sports and it does not need to be a high risk high reward program. We have seen this with our last football coach we don't need it again, it needs to be built the right way no short cuts.

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    I have little idea of what his issues were at T-Tech other than internet rumors. I don't bet the ranch on internet rumors any more than who is doing whom per grocery store tabloids. However, what ever they were, they were serious enough for Tech to dismiss this very talented frosh after at least one suspension/chance. Based on the superficial info I have, it appears that he would be a high risk/high potential "recruit." I am sure that if Davie is at all interested, he has many more facts upon which to base HIS decision. Additionally, we don't know how he is academically at this point.

    I am confident that Coach will use good judgement - he has a career that has earned that confidence & his actions to date are consistent with his career. I do have one possible suggestion if there is any mutual interest. It is let Mr. Daniels earn his way on the team. Let him pay (with lottery scholarship & a home in Albuq., it won't be much) his own way for this year (as a transfer from a D1 school he has to sit anyway for a year) & have him be a team manager. Being a manager has little glory & lots of "grunt" work; however, he can be around the team without taking the chance of becoming a problem player. If he is willing to take this hard road to get on the team, I think all can feel confident that he has demonstrated his desire to be a Lobo & now understands he must follow the rules. I know he won't get the benefit of practicing with the team for a year this way but this may be a far greater "lesson" & be of greater benefit. This is just a thought & as I said above, I'm very comfortable with whatever coach decides.

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    Don't know Ronnie personally, but I am for giving him the opportunity to join the Lobos with some very meaningful understandings. Leave the "Prima Donna" attitude at home and work to get your act together. Do that and the Local Fans will all support you.

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    Personally I would love to see Daniels become a Lobo. Like some others in this thread I don't know if it is worth the risk with his history at TT.

    I guess Davie has a decision to make if in fact Daniels wants to join the Lobos.

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    You just have to trust the Coach on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublealum View Post
    I have little idea of what his issues were at T-Tech other than internet rumors. I don't bet the ranch on internet rumors any more than who is doing whom per grocery store tabloids. However, what ever they were, they were serious enough for Tech to dismiss this very talented frosh after at least one suspension/chance. Based on the superficial info I have, it appears that he would be a high risk/high potential "recruit." I am sure that if Davie is at all interested, he has many more facts upon which to base HIS decision. Additionally, we don't know how he is academically at this point.

    I am confident that Coach will use good judgement - he has a career that has earned that confidence & his actions to date are consistent with his career. I do have one possible suggestion if there is any mutual interest. It is let Mr. Daniels earn his way on the team. Let him pay (with lottery scholarship & a home in Albuq., it won't be much) his own way for this year (as a transfer from a D1 school he has to sit anyway for a year) & have him be a team manager. Being a manager has little glory & lots of "grunt" work; however, he can be around the team without taking the chance of becoming a problem player. If he is willing to take this hard road to get on the team, I think all can feel confident that he has demonstrated his desire to be a Lobo & now understands he must follow the rules. I know he won't get the benefit of practicing with the team for a year this way but this may be a far greater "lesson" & be of greater benefit. This is just a thought & as I said above, I'm very comfortable with whatever coach decides.
    Very nice post, but the lottery schollie has passed him by me thinks. :-)
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    BTW the addl running backs will either ride the pine or play diff positions whether offense or defense...

    Davie is a real coach, he will utilize each player to their capacity at any position where we need help..
    BTW a RB with decent size that can tackle can play LB, Safety or even corner...

    Watch for Davie to make some changes as we get closer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublealum View Post
    I have little idea of what his issues were at T-Tech other than internet rumors. I don't bet the ranch on internet rumors any more than who is doing whom per grocery store tabloids. However, what ever they were, they were serious enough for Tech to dismiss this very talented frosh after at least one suspension/chance. Based on the superficial info I have, it appears that he would be a high risk/high potential "recruit." I am sure that if Davie is at all interested, he has many more facts upon which to base HIS decision. Additionally, we don't know how he is academically at this point.

    I am confident that Coach will use good judgement - he has a career that has earned that confidence & his actions to date are consistent with his career. I do have one possible suggestion if there is any mutual interest. It is let Mr. Daniels earn his way on the team. Let him pay (with lottery scholarship & a home in Albuq., it won't be much) his own way for this year (as a transfer from a D1 school he has to sit anyway for a year) & have him be a team manager. Being a manager has little glory & lots of "grunt" work; however, he can be around the team without taking the chance of becoming a problem player. If he is willing to take this hard road to get on the team, I think all can feel confident that he has demonstrated his desire to be a Lobo & now understands he must follow the rules. I know he won't get the benefit of practicing with the team for a year this way but this may be a far greater "lesson" & be of greater benefit. This is just a thought & as I said above, I'm very comfortable with whatever coach decides.
    The lottery is for first time college students only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
    The lottery is for first time college students only.
    I believe the lottery scholarship also can only be used starting the next regular semester after your graduation from high school. If you want after that I don't believe you qualify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
    The lottery is for first time college students only.
    True... (I am a part time advisor at UNM) Lottery scholarships have to be used straight out of high school - one cannot take a semester/year off at all.

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    ...and given that he participated in the Tech spring game, he's sitting a year. Reading Red Raider comments, sounds as if he was doing very well.

    I'd love to see him pull it together and contribute as a Lobo, but team comes first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primordial View Post
    True... (I am a part time advisor at UNM) Lottery scholarships have to be used straight out of high school - one cannot take a semester/year off at all.
    Thanks to all that corrected my assumption regarding young Mr. Daniels being able to use the Lottery for a redshirt year & put in time as a manager. Oh well, it sounded good. The balance of my post is still relevant & even the idea of him being a manager as opposed to using a schollie for a "test" year, still might be possible, depending upon his & his family's financial situation (of which I know nothing). He could still live at home & would only have to pay in state tuition. Again, just a thought if he & Coach Davie are even at all interested.

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    Having him serve as a manager seems to me to b e a waste. If we fare going to take him onto the team, he can try to be a walk-on the first year with a promise of a schollie thereafter depending upon demeanor and effort. At least that way he could practice with the team and not suffer an atrophy of football skills. Of course, I don't know if the money situation would preclude that approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judas_priest View Post
    Having him serve as a manager seems to me to b e a waste. If we fare going to take him onto the team, he can try to be a walk-on the first year with a promise of a schollie thereafter depending upon demeanor and effort. At least that way he could practice with the team and not suffer an atrophy of football skills. Of course, I don't know if the money situation would preclude that approach.
    If the young man has to sit out a year anyway, his football skills will atrophy to some degree no matter what. If he's forced to take a year off, he may as well start integrating with the team, get to know the coaches, get to know their style and get to know the other players, while he's forced to sit out. Being a team manager is good idea, so is being a gym helper, or whatever so he starts to "blend" and become part of the bigger plan.

    I believe if a player has to sit out a year, they don't get to participate in the actual practice and training things the team does, so they may as well find some function if he wants to play the following year. I think when they mean sit out, they mean "you don't get to do any football activity with the team".

    Just my thoughts on this and I could be wrong on the rules for transferring.

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    Coach Davie is having a walk on try out in three days. We'll learn more then.

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    If he is transferring because TTU didn't renew his scholarship, perhaps UNM could apply for a hardship waiver so he can play this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apenland01 View Post

    I believe if a player has to sit out a year, they don't get to participate in the actual practice and training things the team does, so they may as well find some function if he wants to play the following year. I think when they mean sit out, they mean "you don't get to do any football activity with the team".
    From a general sense, this is false. As redshirts, you have the right to participate fully in practices. Rocky Long used to redshirt 90% of his freshmen, yet they practiced with the team. Drew Gordon, Demetrius Walker, and a host of other transfers to the basketball program all practiced during the year they sat out.

    On a case by case basis, there could be extenuating circumstances that counters or prohibits this, either from the coach's standpoint or some other ramification, but I can't think of any instances off the top of my head where this happened to a Lobo.




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    Dear Ronnie Daniels,
    Please, learn from your past mistakes. Use them as motivation to become a better person, a better student, and a better athlete. You have a golden opportunity if you are able to participate in UNM football. NM is cheering for you to become the star we all thought you would become out of high school. There is no time like the present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloo View Post
    From a general sense, this is false. As redshirts, you have the right to participate fully in practices. Rocky Long used to redshirt 90% of his freshmen, yet they practiced with the team. Drew Gordon, Demetrius Walker, and a host of other transfers to the basketball program all practiced during the year they sat out.

    On a case by case basis, there could be extenuating circumstances that counters or prohibits this, either from the coach's standpoint or some other ramification, but I can't think of any instances off the top of my head where this happened to a Lobo.
    Hmm, I was under the assumption that transferring wasn't like redshirting and they weren't allowed to participate in football activities, but I stand corrected if this isn't the case. In any event, the more integration early on, the better, no matter who is coming into the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmassuave View Post
    If he is transferring because TTU didn't renew his scholarship, perhaps UNM could apply for a hardship waiver so he can play this year.
    Not gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apenland01 View Post
    If the young man has to sit out a year anyway, his football skills will atrophy to some degree no matter what. If he's forced to take a year off, he may as well start integrating with the team, get to know the coaches, get to know their style and get to know the other players, while he's forced to sit out. Being a team manager is good idea, so is being a gym helper, or whatever so he starts to "blend" and become part of the bigger plan.

    I believe if a player has to sit out a year, they don't get to participate in the actual practice and training things the team does, so they may as well find some function if he wants to play the following year. I think when they mean sit out, they mean "you don't get to do any football activity with the team".

    Just my thoughts on this and I could be wrong on the rules for transferring.
    Unless something changed, Redshirts are able to practice and train with the team they are just not able to play in games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
    I'll pass. Anybody that refers to themselves as "future NFL RB" reminds me too much of Jarion "one and done" Henry.
    Darington Hobson was also a self-proclaimed "one and done". That situation didn't turn out so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopLobo View Post
    Darington Hobson was also a self-proclaimed "one and done". That situation didn't turn out so bad.
    Yeah it did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMexPoke View Post
    Yeah it did.

    Mind explaining?? Because he had a great time at UNM and did wonders for our program... NOOO HICCUPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMexPoke View Post
    Yeah it did.
    You're right. Being a model athlete who represents the state and university well, while also guiding our program to unprecedented win totals, and doing so while exhibiting an immense amount of heart, passion, and an unselfish team first attitude, DH turned out to be a disastrous scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoKuZ View Post

    Mind explaining?? Because he had a great time at UNM and did wonders for our program... NOOO HICCUPS
    Well he one and done-ed and now he's fighting to stay in the nba. Had he stayed he and developed more he would have had a better shot at being in the first round. No objective observer could say that in hindsight him leaving early was nothing but a horrendous decision. He was hurt when he left and then re injured himself. Pro leagues you get one shot then they move on. He should have stayed and gone out at 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopLobo View Post

    You're right. Being a model athlete who represents the state and university well, while also guiding our program to unprecedented win totals, and doing so while exhibiting an immense amount of heart, passion, and an unselfish team first attitude, DH turned out to be a disastrous scenario.
    Oh it was fine for unm for hobs it was nothing but a disaster.


 

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