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    The Wildcat

    NICE!!!!!

    What did you all think of that?

    Also, working the air more...

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    Love it. Tons of speed out of it!
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    If you're going to run it, might as well use the speed that's available. With Cole not being up to speed as a passer, it makes sense to utilize our faster guys.
    I thought it was something that NMSU was not prepared for. It seemed as if they might have prepared for Cole but not our "burners" in the wildcat.
    I hope we can continue to add new wrinkles to our offense. Its proving valuable in that it has the potential to keep opposing defenses guessing and off balance.
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    We used it early. In the 2nd half we only used it a couple of times. This issue is that even the wildcat is a little one dimensional. The QB will not pitch it. He will either hand it off or run with it so I wouldn't call it an option. He doesn't even have the experience to read the handoff part of it.

    It's great to run a wildcat and get the ball in the hands of playmakers but we need to take it with a grain of salt also.

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    It's best application was catching the Aggies by surprise at the beginning of the game. There was no film of the wildcat out there and Flash was hardly available up to this point. We got some positive plays out of it, but it was more important in giving the Aggie defense one more thing to think about while they were trying to defend us.

    Superior game plan. Good call Coach Davie/DeBesse.

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    I liked it a lot... The thing will be to get Flash confortable back there. You could almost see the steam coming out of his ears from thinking SOOOO much while he was back there.

    With him and Wiggins, and then Carrier, Clayton, Pressley back there... thats some wheels!

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    I enjoyed it....I enjoyed everything, since we won! I was pretty excited to see Davie get the ball to Clayton, too...then he fumbled, and I don't think he touched the ball again. Hopefully he can learn to squeeze the rock a little better, because the dude can run!

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    Loved seeing the Wildcat with Flash. It's a great way to guarantee the ball gets in his hands. I would love to see a triple option wildcat package with Carrier/Pressley on a dive and Flash and Clayton/Wiggins as the pitch man. That could be deadly.
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    I thought BR did a FINE FINE job of running the pistol saturday..wow..hadn't thought about flash as the pitch man, carrier as the dive...that could indeed be deadly..

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    what about C. Gongbay, you guys think we'll get to see him against BSU? Nothing wrong with adding his beef to give the donks something else to think about right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loboman59 View Post
    what about C. Gongbay, you guys think we'll get to see him against BSU? Nothing wrong with adding his beef to give the donks something else to think about right?
    I believe he started on Special teams against NMSU. I would expect to see him Saturday.
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    Yeah I suppose he'll be in the mix. Part of me kind of wishes that they would just go with one or two guys and let them get in a rhythm.
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    Their "rhythm" appears to be pretty damn good right now.

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    Didn't Carrier get over 120 yards? I am not sure Gongbay is going to take any time from him. I would like to see Gongbay moved to address our depth issues in the defensive secondary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftball View Post
    I would like to see Gongbay moved to address our depth issues in the defensive secondary.

    That's a big jump for someone who has not played a snap this year, only practices with the offense, and doesn't know any of the defensive schemes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crush View Post
    That's a big jump for someone who has not played a snap this year, only practices with the offense, and doesn't know any of the defensive schemes.
    He may not be able to help this year, but he could contribute next year. AJ Butler made a similar jump with success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftball View Post
    Didn't Carrier get over 120 yards? I am not sure Gongbay is going to take any time from him. I would like to see Gongbay moved to address our depth issues in the defensive secondary.
    What on film leads you to believe that that Gongbay would be a good candidate for a move to the secondary?
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    Gongbay to the secondary? What kind of tomfool craziness is that? He was our best running back before he left, and now you want him to play defense? SMDH

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    Quote Originally Posted by muyguapo View Post
    Gongbay to the secondary? What kind of tomfool craziness is that? He was our best running back before he left, and now you want him to play defense? SMDH
    Carrier just peeled off 129 yards against the Aggies; Pressley had 71; Clayton had 36 on 3 carries; Wiggins had 20 on 2 carries. In addition, next year we have the stud transfer from Cal, and I am sure that Davie will recruit another stud. I am sorry, I simply did not see this type of performance from Gongbay last year. We need depth in the secondary and he has size and suitable speed for a safety. Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftball View Post
    Carrier just peeled off 129 yards against the Aggies; Pressley had 71; Clayton had 36 on 3 carries; Wiggins had 20 on 2 carries. In addition, next year we have the stud transfer from Cal, and I am sure that Davie will recruit another stud. I am sorry, I simply did not see this type of performance from Gongbay last year. We need depth in the secondary and he has size and suitable speed for a safety. Just my opinion.
    And what type of performance did you see from Carrier last year? And Pressley? What skill do those two have that Gongbay supposedly does not possess?
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    Carrier was injured last year and did not play. The two years before, I saw alot out of him. Carrier can hit the hole quickly, he is agile, has good hands, is fast, and is tough. He reminds me of Winslow Oliver. Before the season started, I said on this site that he would be a starter and our stud. By the way, before Locksley, I saw alot out of another back who did not get enough playing time, James Wright. Unfortunately, Carrier and Wright did not get enough carries (in my opinion) under the previous coaching group who preferred to play Demond, and then Gongbay who were their high profile recruits.

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    Fortunately, with the system we're running, too many RBs will never be a problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftball View Post
    Carrier was injured last year and did not play. The two years before, I saw alot out of him. Carrier can hit the hole quickly, he is agile, has good hands, is fast, and is tough. He reminds me of Winslow Oliver. Before the season started, I said on this site that he would be a starter and our stud. By the way, before Locksley, I saw alot out of another back who did not get enough playing time, James Wright. Unfortunately, Carrier and Wright did not get enough carries (in my opinion) under the previous coaching group who preferred to play Demond, and then Gongbay who were their high profile recruits.
    Yet, in the same system, Gongbay averaged a full YPC (4.6) higher than Carrier did (3.6). Nothing against Carrier, I think he's a fine back. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Gongbay is more talented. Had he been here for spring, or even fall for that matter, I believe he would be getting the bulk of those inside runs.
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    I completely trust Coach Davie to play the players he thinks he can win with. I personally think Carrier is a much better back, but again, that and a couple of dollars will get a cup of black coffee at Starbucks!

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    After yesterday are you still a fan of the Wildcat? I've never been of fan of the wildcat at any level, high school, college or pro. Too me it means you have no offense.

    After you run it a few times and everyone knows what's coming it's easy to defend. Yesterday Boise decided they were going to crash from the outside hard when they Saw Flash in the backfield. We saw what happened and the Lobos never ran that again the rest of the game. The best way to run it is to run straight up the middle. If you run a normal offense then the defense can't really key on one thing like the option. You limit yourself a lot by running the Wildcat.

    By the way did everyone notice how predictable our offense was the whole 2nd half?? That's how you know you are a good offense. The best offenses are the ones where you know exactly what they are running. Execution is the key.

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    I felt bad for Boise. Imagine how demoralizing it is knowing whats coming and not being able to do a dang thing about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PreLawLobo View Post
    I felt bad for Boise. Imagine how demoralizing it is knowing whats coming and not being able to do a dang thing about it.
    Screw Boise! I hope they left here demoralized and deflated!
    If there's such thing as a moral victory, UNM had it. If there is such thing as a moral loss (after a win), BSU has it!
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    I love the wildcat. And they even used it in the 4th. Had gains almost 80% of the time.

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    Yes, I still like the wildcat. Or maybe we can call that package the Wild Lobo. Or The Loaded Pistol. But either way, it's not our offense; it's just a package utilizing our play makers. AS we get more experience in, we will be able to give more looks from it. As long as Flash is healthy, we will see it every game, probably with new wrinkles added in as they get more comfortable.
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    Watching Arkansas the year they ran the wildhog was pretty sweet with Peyton Hillis, Felix Jones, and Darren McFadden. I think the depth we have at our skill positions allows us to do a lot of the same things they did.

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