If Alford left to Indiana I would love it if CN followed him there. However, this is a pipe dream scenario. No way on earth does Neal leave UNM and walk away from $1 million.
Neal would never go from a head coach to top assistant who makes $500,000 at the absolute maximum. However, CN has to recognize that next year is going to be toxic and it will not end well for both parties.
He will be gone at the end of next season. I love the Lobos. I just realize that we don't have the right coach.
Back to the first part of the post, my question is why not? Looking at the MWC I see no opponent that strikes fear in someone. Part of that is attitude and community. In my opinion having a winning program such as Kansas requires enough of a belief that a product is worth whatever it takes to be successful. If you have ever been to a game there fantastic court, crazy fans. Other than that not a ton of things to do there, no beach, but one thing who can be sure of is that KU basketball is king.
I have been to the pit and in my opinion UNM has one of the biggest home court advantages in all of college basketball, not just the MWC. Would you know that though? You would at Wichita State (crazy), Butler, of course Duke, Kansas, Kentucky ect. 20+ years ago many may have though Gonzaga was a soccer team in Europe, now synonymous with college bb. I read lots of comments about the coaches here. If they are not in line with expectation then change that. If money is an issue, then find a different route. In the next few weeks the tourney will be over, and some of the sting of watching crazy games on 3-4 channels will be gone. From there, since the school you support has decided to employ a coach for another year it would probably be a good idea to support that coach and the kids that play for the program.
He is definitely showing the wear and tear of the job. But, "great disdain" for the fans and media, I don't think so. He certainly has contempt for the media. Frankly, almost all coaches do to some level. It is pretty commonplace. Guys like Belichick and Parcells made it an art form. I don't really see any behavior from Neal that fits any synonym of disdain at a level considerably above normal directed towards the fans as a whole.
Then I should have started the post with that :)
The way he handled the Cullen situation was less than ideal. He was willing to impugn the entire fan base based on the actions of relatively few troll "fans." He is still doing that to this day, despite the effects that might have on his own recruiting. I would call that "great disdain."
Neal does not look at all comfortable like Belichick and Parcells. They master the media. Neal just bristles and groans at their questions. It is fair to say he doesn't appreciate their role and would prefer if they just go away.
At any rate it is apparent that Neal is not happy here at UNM. Anyone who noticed his deteriorating physical state, and his body language for long enough should come to that conclusion. My point is that being AHC might be more attractive than some people think.
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I am willing to be convinced otherwise, but I have neither read or heard from Neal statements that "impugn" the "entire fan base" based on the few cowardly troll fans. Does Neal deride those trolls? Yep, and I don't blame him one bit, but it is not directed to each fan. It is not beyond what I would expect normally from a person in his position when one of his kids is experiencing that stuff.
Bristles and groans? Really? Surely you have seen the early media for Belichick and Parcells before they became masters of the art. Do we really expect Neal to be a master of the media? For my part, mastering the press conferences ranks at about the level of shoelace color selection. I am probably not far off when I say that almost every head coach wishes the media would go away with the exception of showmen and those that require lots of attention.
I agree he is not happy. In his own words he is not meeting his own expectations and this is wearing him down. He just can't seem to get past being just average as a head coach. He sees it. We see it. I think a lot of the negative posters are letting their emotions get away from them and stop being objective about the situation.
Given that Bob Knight recently said terrible things, again, about the Indiana administration, and Steve seems to have a continuing relationship with him, I think it factors into Steve's decision on leaving for Indiana. I tend to believe that if he's offered a long-term contract at $4M per year he is gone. And Noodles stays here until he makes it or gets canned, ego and money drive it.
I'm a bit disappointed in you Vwolf. Although critical of the program you don't usually use hyperbole. I've known you as a facts guy..what happened?
My position as a moderator adds no validity to my opinions. I am a fan just like you and as such when I express a view it represents me and me alone and carries no more weight than any other fan other than the fact that I am always right. (Like everyone else.)
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If Alford goes to IU. Niel is not invited. Alford and Niel are not BFFs. Fact. Also getting away from Niel was part of the decision to go to UCLA.
Who is Niel?
And who is Neil?
-- timvracer --
"As of Saturday night, it would appear the Mountain West Conference has two NCAA tournament-worthy teams. As long as they can find the remains of one of them."
Next year we honestly do not have much talent. It would be perfect timing to rebuild the program with a new coach. That all depends if Alford leaves for Indiana and if he offers Neal an assistant gig. That's a lot of "ifs" right there.
Just look at what Neal said at the time. Look at how he played up the supposed death threats. I am amazed that this slid off of so many on here, but I do know it went against the prevailing TheLoboLair narrative.
I remain objective about this. I am not going to pretend Neal is anything he isn't. He doesn't love the fans here, and more and more they don't love him. The writing is on the wall. His results are actually don't show average coaching at UNM. We have a big advantage in our conference in terms of resources, facilities, home court, and fan support. A bad coach could accomplish what he has here.
Like I wrote, I am willing to be convinced otherwise. I remember when it went down with Cullen. My first search (and only one) brought this direct quote:
“He’s had to change his phone number twice and he’s had to take his Twitter account down,” coach Neal said. “It’s sad that a player from our university that plays for the Lobos, that’s the son of the coach – that has to happen. But I know there are a lot of great fans out there. That’s why I love this place. And I’m committed to this place and my son’s committed to it, but it’s just not right.”
Where is the great disdain for all of the fans? This quote clearly refers to a minority of cowardly fans. Neal says he loves the place because there are a lot of great fans. Obviously, the criticism of Cullen continued and Cullen dropped his commitment. I don't blame him.
As far as average goes, turns out Neal is right on the median for coaches starting with Bob King and not counting Charlie Harrison consider W-L percentage. When I wrote average, I was thinking D-1 overall. However, history has shown that we UNM fans will grow tired of the good to very good coaches anyway (Colson, Bliss, and yes even Alford once we lost to Harvard). Average will never cut it here. Neal knows it. I know it. Anything other than very good or better is bad for UNM.
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