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    Carlton Bragg

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    Perhaps the biggest news out of the press conference was the appeal of Carlton Bragg's eligibility. Weir referenced a QB transfer to Michigan that they were citing as a case for support of Bragg. This is Shea Patterson, an elite QB. The issue with Patterson has some differences in that he requested a waiver based upon Patterson believing he was mislead by Mississippi in his recruitment process. The waiver was granted a couple of weeks ago and Patterson does not need to sit out.

    The real help to Bragg's case came from a report from an NCAA committee last month which expanded the reasons why waivers could be granted. Here is the report and below is the important part: http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/fi...t_20180427.pdf

    Specifically, immediate eligibility may be provided to a transferstudent-athlete, provided: (Fairness/Well-Being/Operational)

    a. The transfer is due to documented mitigating circumstances that are outside thestudent-athlete's control and directly impact the health, safety and well-being of thestudent-athlete;
    b. At the time of transfer to the certifying institution, the student-athlete would havebeen athletically and academically eligible and in good standing on the team hadhe or she remained at the previous institution;
    c. The certifying institution must certify that the student-athlete meets percentage-of-degreerequirements; and
    d. The previous institution's athletics administration does not oppose the transfer.
    Weir indicated that they were hopeful for the success of the appeal and the ASU indicated their support. Was their some mitigating circumstance beyond Bragg's control? We don't know but that seems loose enough to include a lot of things.

    Bottom line: The likelihood of seeing Bragg for an entire season just went up significantly. This not only bodes well for our success in the first dozen games but Bragg will gain valuable court time which will make him even more of a factor at the end of the season, barring unforeseen circumstances.

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    That would be nice if Mr Bragg can play a full season next year. Ncaa make this happen.


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    Interesting that the two eligibility appeals--McDougall and Bragg--have both involved ASU. I hope this one turns out better.

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    b. At the time of transfer to the certifying institution, the student-athlete would havebeen athletically and academically eligible and in good standing on the team hadhe or she remained at the previous institution;
    So basically, they are saying, had he remained at ASU, he would be eligible this fall, which would complete his 1 year transfer, and since there were mitigating circumstances forcing him to transfer to UNM, as long as he is in good academic standing, he would be eligible this fall? Seems fair...I hope this turns out to be the case. Wow, this would be huge!!!

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    I think the fact that Weir even brought it up today is a good sign. I want to be at full strength right from the get-go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.M View Post
    Interesting that the two eligibility appeals--McDougall and Bragg--have both involved ASU. I hope this one turns out better.
    I wonder if the coaching staff's experience with the player will have any effect on outcome in this. ASU didn't cooperate with the Connor situation, but things sound promising with Bragg this time. Is it of benefit that Bragg has relationship with Hurley and staff when Connor didn't?

    I don't know the answer but wonder if it will end up being a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    ,,, ASU didn't cooperate with the Connor situation, but things sound promising with Bragg this time. ,,,
    For Connor it was out of ASU's hand, as New Mexico's appeal and denial had to go through the PAC 12. It was the PAC 12 (rules) that said no, because Connor had suited up for more than 30% of the games even though he played limited action in only 6 games for the season in question (14-15). Had he only played / suited up in their first 9 games before his injury, he would have been eligible for another year. I believe he suited up in 14 games, playing in 6, but may practiced even longer.

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    I am not sure in Bragg's case how involved the PAC 12 will be, but they are the governing body for eligibility and transfers for all PAC 12 members. Since Bragg never played a game, I would hope like ASU, the PAC 12 would be as supportive.
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    I cannot stress how different Weir is than any previous Lobo boss. He is more than a coach he is the CEO of the men’s basketball department.
    Winning is the goal but financial success is the plan. Obviously he wins he gets paid more but this is more than self-promotion. UNM baskets is a sleeping giant $$$-wise. Just like the great State of New Mexico is. Weir sees success as creating a winning money making engine. If UNM stays out of his way I like his chances.
    Quarterly Foundation meeting starts tomorrow in Santa Fe. I’ll have some financial news shortly thereafter.
    I think Bragg gets the waiver. His story involves more than an itenirant basketball player. GO LOBOS!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo View Post
    For Connor it was out of ASU's hand, as New Mexico's appeal and denial had to go through the PAC 12. It was the PAC 12 (rules) that said no, because Connor had suited up for more than 30% of the games even though he played limited action in only 6 games for the season in question (14-15). Had he only played / suited up in their first 9 games before his injury, he would have been eligible for another year. I believe he suited up in 14 games, playing in 6, but may practiced even longer.

    https://www.abqjournal.com/1090698/m...n-to-play.html


    I am not sure in Bragg's case how involved the PAC 12 will be, but they are the governing body for eligibility and transfers for all PAC 12 members. Since Bragg never played a game, I would hope like ASU, the PAC 12 would be as supportive.
    I thought there had been a statement at some point that ASU had to give the okay to the PAC 12 to move forward but had chosen not to do that. Perhaps that statement was incorrect or perhaps I'm mis-remembering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    I thought there had been a statement at some point that ASU had to give the okay to the PAC 12 to move forward but had chosen not to do that. Perhaps that statement was incorrect or perhaps I'm mis-remembering...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.M View Post
    Interesting that the two eligibility appeals--McDougall and Bragg--have both involved ASU. I hope this one turns out better.
    But two different coaching staffs, correct? CM played under Herb Sendek, Bragg was brought in by Hurley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooklyn_esq View Post
    I cannot stress how different Weir is than any previous Lobo boss. He is more than a coach he is the CEO of the men’s basketball department.
    Winning is the goal but financial success is the plan. Obviously he wins he gets paid more but this is more than self-promotion. UNM baskets is a sleeping giant $$$-wise. Just like the great State of New Mexico is. Weir sees success as creating a winning money making engine. If UNM stays out of his way I like his chances.
    Quarterly Foundation meeting starts tomorrow in Santa Fe. I’ll have some financial news shortly thereafter.
    I think Bragg gets the waiver. His story involves more than an itenirant basketball player. GO LOBOS!
    Sleeping giant?! Really? The nonmial definition of this is a vast or significant change. For example TCU in football. It was an average program before Patterson and now top 15 and P5.

    UNM basketball is already running at 80% capacity of opportunity dollars. Are you saying that at 100%, only a 20% increase is a sleeping giant!? I would respectfully disagree.

    The UNM football program has the most potential growth. It is a potential giant of revenue.
    But you folks in N.M. don’t like football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWL View Post
    Sleeping giant?! Really?

    UNM basketball is already running at 80% capacity of opportunity dollars.
    Typical NM thinking. What is opportunity capacity here? What was Gonzaga's opportunity capacity prior to Monson/Few? Think a run of Sweet 16's change that capacity?

    With that thought process the CSU's Boise State's of the present will leave UNM in the rear view mirror just like our old colleagues ASU and Arizona did. When I landed in Abq the four corner states were running neck and neck financially but NM's opportunity costs left them in the Bottom Ten Conference of States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooklyn_esq View Post
    I cannot stress how different Weir is than any previous Lobo boss. He is more than a coach he is the CEO of the men’s basketball department.
    Winning is the goal but financial success is the plan. Obviously he wins he gets paid more but this is more than self-promotion. UNM baskets is a sleeping giant $$$-wise. Just like the great State of New Mexico is. Weir sees success as creating a winning money making engine. If UNM stays out of his way I like his chances.
    Quarterly Foundation meeting starts tomorrow in Santa Fe. I’ll have some financial news shortly thereafter.
    I think Bragg gets the waiver. His story involves more than an itenirant basketball player. GO LOBOS!
    Could not agree more on the CEO aspect.. Well said!

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    I agree, Weir is truly a CEO and Ambassador for UNM Basketball. He can accomplish a lot here and help solve some of UNM's academic woes. That said, both basketball and football have a high ceiling. I think must of us agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riches6 View Post
    I agree, Weir is truly a CEO and Ambassador for UNM Basketball. He can accomplish a lot here and help solve some of UNM's academic woes. That said, both basketball and football have a high ceiling. I think must of us agree.
    I hope people listen to Coach Weir.... and I hope local media helps give him a platform to be heard. I've seen where a few news outlets had reported on Coach's appeal to fans about buying season tickets, that's a very good thing. Not to diminish that, but does anyone know if any of the stations showed footage of the presser? Specifically - of him imploring fans to buy tickets? IMO that would be a great thing for folks to see on the evening news in greater ABQ and NM in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWL View Post
    Sleeping giant?! Really? The nonmial definition of this is a vast or significant change. For example TCU in football. It was an average program before Patterson and now top 15 and P5.

    UNM basketball is already running at 80% capacity of opportunity dollars. Are you saying that at 100%, only a 20% increase is a sleeping giant!? I would respectfully disagree.

    The UNM football program has the most potential growth. It is a potential giant of revenue.
    But you folks in N.M. don’t like football.
    But you folks in N.M. don’t like bad football.

    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton View Post
    But you folks in N.M. don’t like bad football.

    Fixed.
    How many games a year do you attend? broken "fan" now Fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton View Post
    But you folks in N.M. don’t like bad football.

    Fixed.
    During those 2 good years in a row that Davie had the fans still didn't turn out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoops View Post
    During those 2 good years in a row that Davie had the fans still didn't turn out...
    You can't lose to NMSU and expect fans to show up in droves afterwards. That game has the most fans every year. If you lose that one do you think those fans are excited to go to another one? There aren't enough home games in football after that game to recover. In basketball there are plenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNMerciful_1 View Post
    You can't lose to NMSU and expect fans to show up in droves afterwards. That game has the most fans every year. If you lose that one do you think those fans are excited to go to another one? There aren't enough home games in football after that game to recover. In basketball there are plenty.
    only one f those years did we lose to the Aggies. Last year in b- ball the Aggies swept us. Come on, let's get it toghether and quit giving ourselves excuses - we won't allow our teams or coaches to so let's hold ourselves to a similar standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.M View Post
    Interesting that the two eligibility appeals--McDougall and Bragg--have both involved ASU. I hope this one turns out better.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    ASU didn't cooperate with the Connor situation...
    Quote Originally Posted by hobo View Post
    For Connor it was out of ASU's hand, as New Mexico's appeal and denial had to go through the PAC 12. It was the PAC 12 (rules) that said no, because Connor had suited up for more than 30% of the games even though he played limited action in only 6 games for the season in question (14-15). Had he only played / suited up in their first 9 games before his injury, he would have been eligible for another year. I believe he suited up in 14 games, playing in 6, but may practiced even longer.
    Lots of inaccuracies here.

    Connor's initial hardship waiver application was denied, but he appealed to the Pac 12, and in March, he won his appeal. ASU did in fact cooperate in that appeal just as it had in his initial application.

    So when nearly everyone thought that Connor's situation was hopeless, Connor eventually won because he never gave up. He felt that he had a good hardship case, but he simply needed more and better documentation to win it. If UNM Had been more aggressive with that appeal upon first learning that the application had been denied, Connor might still be a Lobo.

    IMO, Weir learned from Connor's win. Be more aggressive....better documentation....Hence, Bragg.




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    Quote Originally Posted by UWSLobo View Post
    Lots of inaccuracies here.

    Connor's initial hardship waiver application was denied, but he appealed to the Pac 12, and in March, he won his appeal. ASU did in fact cooperate in that appeal just as it had in his initial application.

    So when nearly everyone thought that Connor's situation was hopeless, Connor eventually won because he never gave up. He felt that he had a good hardship case, but he simply needed more and better documentation to win it. If UNM Had been more aggressive with that appeal upon first learning that the application had been denied, Connor might still be a Lobo.

    IMO, Weir learned from Connor's win. Be more aggressive....better documentation....Hence, Bragg.
    interestinbbtake/info. If you are at liberty, What is the basis of your info or is it your interpretation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublealum View Post
    only one f those years did we lose to the Aggies. Last year in b- ball the Aggies swept us. Come on, let's get it toghether and quit giving ourselves excuses - we won't allow our teams or coaches to so let's hold ourselves to a similar standard.
    After our home loss to NMSU last year we averaged 10,534 in attendance for our next 6 home game, and that includes the 13,207 for Arizona. We would've been well below 10,000 without that game. For the last 6 home games we averaged 11,683. That's what I mean by having enough time to recover attendance wise. In football you will lose a significant portion of the fanbase if you have a bad loss early. You'll only have 4 or 5 home games left as it is. In basketball, a bad loss early can have a temporary affect on attendance, but there are still plenty of home games left ti reenergize the the fanbase and last year proved that.

    Please don't read my post and think I'm telling you that this is OK. I think the fans should support the team regardless. However, what the fans should do, and what the reality is are two different things. And the reality is that a bad early loss in football has a much more damaging affect on football than it does on basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublealum View Post
    interestinbbtake/info. If you are at liberty, What is the basis of your info or is it your interpretation?
    Good intel.





 

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