I suspect that this is just three decent sized networks becoming two bigger networks with CBS and NBC spackled on them. I think they're trying to maximize the effectiveness of what supposed to be a 24 hours network at the expense of the service that the MTN was doing. I don't expect much of it to change at all, just a network that's trying to keep up in the sports channel marketplace while doing it cheaper than the other guy. Meanwhile, CBS/NBC get the MTN's general programming and cut their overhead by 44 employees.
I do feel for the MTN employees though. They're getting "first pick" of Comcast SportsNet sub-channels but that still doesn't make this less of an informal reorganization from the top shareholders. Awkward and inconveinent.
Just another jackpot. Ain't nothing new.
The Mtn had 10 million people suscribing right?? CBS currently has 45 million right?? 49% of 45 mil is still more than the Mtn. Not trying to be facetious or anything but am I right? Im all for more exposure...you often have people saying "what the heck is a LOBO??" or better yet..."There's a NEW Mexico?"
Yeah but the question is how many games is CBS likely to show of one school? There are only so many slots for time and if your talking about a potentially 20+ team conference that limits how many games from each school they can show. The Mtn. wasn't perfect, but I knew that I could watch pretty much every game with my comcast subscription.
Plus the NCAA has already said that the new conference will only get one auto bid for basketball so I don't see the strength in numbers argument. All I see is a bigger pot split between a lot members with less coverage for each school individually. Hopefully I am wrong and the new TV deal will work out, but I doubt it.
every conference only gets 1 auto bid. The Big East is 18 large and only 1 auto bid. No crying from their end. CBS will put the best game on their national broadcast, and CBS Sports will get the next level games. If you have a cable or sat package and you get the MTN, then most likely you will also get CBS Sports. Hell everyone that has Dish can now get at least a chance to watch MW teams play.
True every league get 1 bid but the original merger was for football only through a championship game and maintaining separate leagues for basketball with each league getting their own NCAA tourney bid. The NCAA said no to this and now we are hearing about a full merger. It made sense to me in football, but a full merger doesn't strike me as the most advantages position for UNM basketball IMHO.
MWC Basketball as a whole does not gain a thing by merging with CUSA. This is a football move, but with that said, CUSA football is about as good as what is left over from the MWC, especially with Houston, SMU, and UCF leaving CUSA.
Actually, I think there are second thoughts now about a merger. There would be too much lost if both conferences disbanded. I think there will be a scheduling alliance between MW and CUSA but no merger.
For Lobos fans who don't live in New Mexico, this is likely to be a blow. I've complained about the Mtn. not being in HD, but was still grateful to be able to watch ALMOST EVERY GAME. Now it's likely that there will be fewer games televised outside of NM. Now my wife is gonna expect me to do all of those stinkin' home improvement projects. This could suck.
We will more than likely be on cbs sports channel, not cbs. 3,4, or 5 games if we are lucky. How many times were we on it this year, 3, 4? Sounds like a wash to me as far as national coverage. Actually a lot less coverage because of the loss of the MTN.
People need to understand that the conference has to make themselves competitive or they will die. We've already seen Utah, BYU, TCU, and Boise leave the conference almost entirely due to the fact the MWC television revenue package was just not competitive and was not providing the benefit and exposure that was initially envisioned.
Look, it was nice having the MTN for us fans to tune in and keep up with our team and conference counterparts. It was great to have almost every game televised. I loved it and watched as much as any other network. However, I'm not short-sighted enough to think it was going to last if it wasn't making any money (for the network OR the conference). There was a reason DirecTV took so long to pick up the MTN and there is a reason that Dish never has. If it was a winner for them, they would have done it long a ago.
And, while we all loved it, NOBODY, outside of MWC fans, gave a rat's @ss about The MTN. I'm shooting from the hip here, but I'm guessing that one game on ESPN carries as much national exposure weight as a whole season worth on the MTN -- it has true national viewership, it has casual sports fans not affiliated with a conference, and absolutely huge potential numbers -- none of which The MTN can provide. I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard an analyst say "we haven't seen them much" when talking about UNM, UNLV, or SDSU. I'm sure recruits are saying the same thing. Their buddies are all watching Gonzaga, VCU, Temple, etc. on the occasional nights they are on, while MWC teams are buried on a network those kids never watch, unless they happen to know somebody on one of the teams. In my opinion, the old WAC was more in the national spotlight than the MWC has become, after years of this limited exposure.
All of this is outside of the financial aspect of this for the conference, which we all know is what is driving college sports these days. It was inevitable. We can either complain about it or move on, adjust, and acknowledge that it is better for the school we support in the long run.
Say it isn't so.....I'm gonna miss Andrea Lloyd. Seriously.
I did the math back when the UNLV UNM game took place. The game was in 33% of all households.. Which accounts for at least 100 million people... They were in just 2 of the 10 major market cities though.
This is quite a sad day. I've been a huge fan of the mountain from the beginning for the simple fact of getting games on tv.. This year at least half of our games were on the MTN.. Who will pick up the pieces?
Internet only streaming is the wave of the present and future. If we could get games on LOCALLY (not my50tv), and those available on a PPV basis, the MTN void will be filled.
Now we wait and see what we are left with
I also wanted to mention.. C-USA had tv deals with almost every network out there./ Comcast sports net channels... FSN.. ESPN family.. CBScs and CS..... If the MWC can get just a glimpse of what the CUSA had, we should be okay
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I don't want to get too negative here -- because after all, we don't know the new deal yet and I bet CBS Sports Net won't have our teams playing after midnight East Coast time -- but if it's supposedly better for the program to have a very small number of games with national coverage and rest not covered on TV at all, then why didn't we go for the national coverage before?? The Lobos have had ESPN offers for one-off games with the Lobos on the road against a high-profile team such as Duke, and turned them down.
..... In other words, we have already had chances at 1-2 ESPN games *with* the rest of the games also on TV and decided that wasn't good for the program. So now we are supposed to believe that 2-3, maybe 4, games on a national network, with the rest of the games not broadcast, is somehow better? Is the only difference really just the cash (and we don't even know yet how big a difference that will be)? Well, here's hoping the new deal provides a way to see the 25-plus games that won't be on CBS Sports Net.
Just another jackpot. Ain't nothing new.
More money, more money, more money!!!!!
Let me try again. Most of the country could not view our CBS national TV game with UNLV. The MTN did not stymie our TV coverage. The contract Hair Thompson signed stymied our coverage as it didn't allow any other major network to televise our games. C'mon, guys, at least lets try to be factual.
Do you think everyone with a TV in the 33% of the country that could receive it watched our game? I'll guarantee most of the Lobo fans over the entire country who switched to Direct TV so they could watch the MTN did watch most of our games. How's this for B.S. Maybe more people actually watched the MTN games on Direct TV than watched the Nationally televised game on CBS. I can throw out B.S. too.
I want to see the Lobo program grow and National exposure sure helps. If this leads to National exposure that is great. If CBS decides to cut up what they broadcast so that 1/4 of the country or I/20 of the country sees it then we may not be getting what we think. I am anxiously waiting for some announcements to take place. The main issue I have is that I have been able to see all the conference games on TV. I have also caught a number of games that were streamed. I suspect I might get to see via streaming or live, with no replays maybe 10 games instead of 25 I will take it, but I won't be happy. I think that UNM needs to provide some information about this to their loyal alumni and fans.
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