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    Is Gautsche really the future QB?

    BR's a senior, we all know that, so regardless, he's done after this year.

    I'm hearing from the fans that Cole Gautsche is the future. I'm not so sure.

    Who's to say Davie won't, and most likely will, recruit a JC QB that's more accomplished than Cole. Why not redshirt Cole for one more year? Give him time to work on his passing skills and maturity.

    Anything wrong with that?

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    I may have missed a post about it, but did Coach make a final decision about David Vega after his second transgression?

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    Of course he is but that doesn't mean they're going to stop recruiting QBs just because Cole is here. And once everyone is in camp, whoever wins the job is the QB.

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    The reasoning that cole is getting as much playing time that he is because coach is getting him ready for the main roll there is not any good red shirting him. He needs to
    learn the speed of the game this is something not learned by watching on the sidelines I'm sure he learned on Saturday the difference. So to answer your questions YES he is our QB in the future if he wasn't then he wouldn't have as big of a roll as he does on this years team. Coach said it him self it's all about rebuilding and preparing for the future....

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    After one loss we question if he's the QB of the future? Lol
    come on now.
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    That question would be better asked after he's had the opportunity to take all 1st team snaps in the off season and had the opportunity to start and play at least part of a season.
    He's a TRUE FRESHMAN for gods sake!
    Are we already going there, really???

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    He's a 6-4 230 lb true freshman that excels running the option. It's not a big deal that he struggled against one the top few defenses in the country, and one that features double digit future NFL players. So to anwer your question, yes he is.
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    Didn't Tim Tebow win a national title without being able to pass consistently???

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    I think Cole fits the offense well. From what I've seen, it's run, run, run. Passing doesn't figure in much. Even with BR in there, that appears to be the case. You won't find many better running QBs than Cole.

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    Cole doesn't throw very well. I've got no real problem with the concept, especially from what we've seen so far. I'm also not terribly worried about it right now. I'd be willing to bet that Coach DeBesse has put Cole's throwing mechanics on the back burner for the last six months while he's been teaching the offense.


    This year is going to be what it is, I'd hoped that Cole could redshirt, oh well. He really does run the option very, very well for a freshman. Play to his strenghts, hope BR can come back strong and finish the season, then break down his mechanics this Spring and start over. We've got Cole for three more years, this is a good thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UBD1 View Post
    BR's a senior, we all know that, so regardless, he's done after this year.

    I'm hearing from the fans that Cole Gautsche is the future. I'm not so sure.

    Who's to say Davie won't, and most likely will, recruit a JC QB that's more accomplished than Cole. Why not redshirt Cole for one more year? Give him time to work on his passing skills and maturity.

    Anything wrong with that?
    That's a clown question bro

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    I love what I see in Cole. And I am glad he had the chance to run things at Texas. I am sure he can pass, but just needs the confidence.

    If BR can stay healthy, a BR and Cole combination does give us many chances to win. If we can move the ball like we did with both of them against Texas, we can move it on anyone.

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    Cole is the future and the future is now! I love BR and wish this kid was healthy but he is always hurt, just the way it is. Cole can throw just fine, he is adjusting to the speed of the game and it will all be good soon. So to answer your question, yes Cole is our future and current QB! I gaurantee he will be our 200/200 yrd guy before its over. He is that talented.

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    yes, he is our future... he will be up to speed this season. Next season he will be amazing and feared by other teams! I do believe that. He is BIG and he is SMART... the fundamentals can be taught.

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    IMHO, the bottom line is that Cole is a true Freshman. He was playing his 2nd college game & had to take over against Fricken Texas in Austin in front of 100,000 + hostiles and we were behind for Jimmeney sakes. Will his passing improve so that he becomes a top notch D1 QB - who knows at this point & quite frankly, I think its unfair to ask yet. If Coach Davie had not inherited such a bad situation or at almost any other D1 school, Cole would be red-shirting - not possibly starting (depending upon BR's health). Lets give the kid some credit for what he has been able to do & wish him luck in improving the rest of his game. Whether or not some other player beats him or anyone else out over time is what recruiting & competition is all about but for me, I'm VERY happy Cole is a Lobo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UBD1 View Post
    BR's a senior, we all know that, so regardless, he's done after this year.

    I'm hearing from the fans that Cole Gautsche is the future. I'm not so sure.

    Who's to say Davie won't, and most likely will, recruit a JC QB that's more accomplished than Cole. Why not redshirt Cole for one more year? Give him time to work on his passing skills and maturity.

    Anything wrong with that?
    You are making an assumption that his passing will not improve in the next 3 years. The Cole of 2012 is not nearly as good as the Cole of 2013, 2014, and 2015 will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astern View Post
    I may have missed a post about it, but did Coach make a final decision about David Vega after his second transgression?
    We still don't know yet about Vega possibly being reinstated. He is the only QB on the roster not named B.R. that can throw the ball however and runs the option quite well. It's a shame that he messed things up so badly for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoboMan View Post
    Didn't Tim Tebow win a national title without being able to pass consistently???
    Tim Tebow didnt win it by himself, The Florida Gators won the National Championship. Take a look at the 2008 Gators roster. Cam Newton, Chris Rainey, Jeff Demps, Percy Harvin, Riley Cooper, Aaron Hernandez, Mike & Maurkice Pouncy, John Brantley, Emmanuel Moody, Brandon James, Louis Murphy, David Nelson, Cornelius Ingram, Phil Trautwein, Marcus Gilbert, Carlos Dunlap, Jermaine Cunningham, Brandon Spikes, Joe Haden, Janoris Jenkins, Major Wright, Ahmad Black, Chas Henry all went on to play in the NFL. 25 players from that squad made it to the NFL, so as I said, Tebow did not win the National Championship, the Florida Gators did.
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    I have a problem with that. A new Juco would have to learn our system while the freshman quarterback will have known it and owned it. Davie runs an option style or wants to run an option style so our freshman quarterback needs to run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lobovike View Post
    We still don't know yet about Vega possibly being reinstated. He is the only QB on the roster not named B.R. that can throw the ball however and runs the option quite well. It's a shame that he messed things up so badly for himself.
    Not just "so badly for himself" but also so badly for his team. If reinstated (which not knowing the circumstances, I do not have any idea if that is appropriate), he should have to work from the bottom of the bottom & have to prove himself over & over to get anywhere. Let's not forget, he messed up once & then did "it" again. I'm not in the know, so I will happily support whatever decision Coach makes but young Mr. Vega should work on himself before he trys to "save" this team. Even if he is the best combo of run & pass (after BR), his leadership, dependability & committment to team seem to be last string.

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    Wouldn't it be prudent of Davie to bring in a JUCO QB?

    I'm not calling Gautsche out. I'm just pointing out that Davie will most likely look for another QB come February.

    That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UBD1 View Post
    Wouldn't it be prudent of Davie to bring in a JUCO QB?

    I'm not calling Gautsche out. I'm just pointing out that Davie will most likely look for another QB come February.

    That's all.
    Of course Davie will look at other QB's but bottom line.. Regardless, theres not many as good as Cole at this type of offense..
    Cole will have his throwing game down soon enough

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    2 cents heading your way.....

    First, way too early to be having this discussion imho. Especially after these games against Tech and Texas for a true freshman. Second, I am not so sure Davie doesn't want to have a passing system in play. He has said several times we need a balanced attack. He has also talked about helping Cole develop his passing game. I think 72 hit it on the head and Cole today is not the Cole of tomorrow.

    Bottom line, I think if Davie had a good passer and receivers, he would utilize the passing game heavily. My take from Davie is he wants the passing game to compliment the running game and visa versa. What we see now, it not the full extent offensively of where Davie or Debesse wants to take us I don't think, and yes, they will continue to recruit qbs, along with everything else! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBD1 View Post
    Wouldn't it be prudent of Davie to bring in a JUCO QB?

    I'm not calling Gautsche out. I'm just pointing out that Davie will most likely look for another QB come February.

    That's all.
    Come on guy, this is college football. Of course he is going to be looking for another QB, along with every other position.

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    I think Cole is the Future of this program but the best QB was vega! he could run better than Cole and he could pass better than BR! He really blew a great chance to play!

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    Quote Originally Posted by antdogg34 View Post
    I think Cole is the Future of this program but the best QB was vega! he could run better than Cole and he could pass better than BR! He really blew a great chance to play!

    If he was the "best QB" he would have been named the starter by Davie. BR was named the starter before Vega made his poor decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UBD1 View Post
    BR's a senior, we all know that, so regardless, he's done after this year.

    I'm hearing from the fans that Cole Gautsche is the future. I'm not so sure.

    Who's to say Davie won't, and most likely will, recruit a JC QB that's more accomplished than Cole. Why not redshirt Cole for one more year? Give him time to work on his passing skills and maturity.

    Anything wrong with that?

    Davie doesn't have the luxury of redshirting any QBs because of a lack of depth.

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    He's our QB and he'll learn. It's probably a good thing he arrived when he did, when this program is rebuilding from the bottom up. These freshman are going to learn the hard way and thats by being thrown into the fire which will pay dividends down the road..

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    They'll train Cole to be an adequate passer but it might take a couple of years. Who knows, after 4 years of being the starter he could be an excellent all-around player. As for now, he looks very uncomfortable trying to pass which makes things harder on everyone.

    I'd like to see him get comfortable throwing to the TE, for starters. We have a good one. Build out from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crush View Post

    If he was the "best QB" he would have been named the starter by Davie. BR was named the starter before Vega made his poor decisions.
    So, anyone know the word on David?

    Ok, I'm female and a mom, and those things certainly affect my perspective. But I have a huge soft spot in my heart for BR. He has been through a ton, wanted to stop at one point and keeps on doing what's asked of him and doing it well. He is a leader on the team and cannot help the injury/illness thing. I gotta say, I get pretty irritated when people call him out. His tenure at UNM has certainly been very different than he imagined but he has hung in there with class.

    I know others may have different views- just putting mine out there.

    I'll stop now.

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