Rice gets big raise

[Red Crush]

David Rice, head coach of men’s basketball at the University of Las Vegas, will earn $100,000 a year more or a total base salary of $600,000...

...Smatresk and UNLV Athletic Director Jim Livengood warned the regents that without the pay raise, the university could lose Rice to a more competitive market

http://www.rgj.com/article/20120907/...gets-big-raise

[MacLobo]

He can pay a whole other player with that money!








Obviously,I'm just kidding.

[Roob]

Huh??? After the flameout in the 2nd half of the season and the no-show in their NCAA game, the AD is really afraid that Rice is a hot commodity? Jeez, at least let the guy win 1 NCAA post season game before playing that card. If I'm a Regent I say "Tell me again why you want me to approve a pay raise, but this time with a straight face".

[vegasErNN]

Huh??? After the flameout in the 2nd half of the season and the no-show in their NCAA game, the AD is really afraid that Rice is a hot commodity? Jeez, at least let the guy win 1 NCAA post season game before playing that card. If I'm a Regent I say "Tell me again why you want me to approve a pay raise, but this time with a straight face".

His recruiting alone earned that.

[brooklyn_esq]

[QUOTE=vegasErNN;490986]His recruiting alone earned that.

Double, next year even better

[loboray]

Winning the Las Vegas invite, AKA, the MWC tournament, might help.

[sig570]

Winning the Las Vegas invite, AKA, the MWC tournament, might help.

Agreed but we haven't seen these type of recruits coming to UNLV in quite some time. In the grand scheme of college bball it wasn't all that much and more of a gesture.

[Jeffinthe505]

It doesn't matter how and who he recruits...I would imagine that winning is more important. Rice was severely out coached the 2nd half of last season.

[sig570]

Winning matters but the players do to. He's got the second part down now we will see if he can do the first.

[Roob]

Based on that logic (recruiting prowess), Locksley should be the highest paid fb coach in the country. I would wait for that recruiting to translate into on court results before declaring him a hot commodity. The proof in the pudding is merely 1 - 2 years away. It won't take long.

[Jeffinthe505]

Based on that logic (recruiting prowess), Locksley should be the highest paid fb coach in the country.

Agreed!
I would have waited to give Rice more money after a season or two.
1. $100,000 isn't enough money to prevent an upper tier school from snagging him out of Vegas.
2. After conference teams played UNLV once, they were able to adjust and have more success the second time.
3. Rice (in my opinion) wasn't too impressive in big games where his team really needed to step it up in the 2nd half.
4. He's gotten some multi star recruits but hasn't done anything with them yet. Seems premature to me.

[ricoLobo]

Based on that logic (recruiting prowess), Locksley should be the highest paid fb coach in the country. I would wait for that recruiting to translate into on court results before declaring him a hot commodity. The proof in the pudding is merely 1 - 2 years away. It won't take long.

I disagree -- UNLV had some good wins last year and was ranked -- the only thing Loseley was ranked was in the BOTTOM TEN. In fact, he was NUMBER ONE for a good portion of his stay. And I never saw any proof based on his coaching that the guys he recruited were any good.

No, I don't buy your argument, Roob.

[sig570]

Agreed!
I would have waited to give Rice more money after a season or two.
1. $100,000 isn't enough money to prevent an upper tier school from snagging him out of Vegas.
2. After conference teams played UNLV once, they were able to adjust and have more success the second time.
3. Rice (in my opinion) wasn't too impressive in big games where his team really needed to step it up in the 2nd half.
4. He's gotten some multi star recruits but hasn't done anything with them yet. Seems premature to me.

I agree with all your statements but #4; the multi star recruits he got are all eligible this year. How could he do anything with his multi star recruits last year if they were not eligible last year or were still in HS?

[toddl18]

Agreed!
I would have waited to give Rice more money after a season or two.
1. $100,000 isn't enough money to prevent an upper tier school from snagging him out of Vegas.
2. After conference teams played UNLV once, they were able to adjust and have more success the second time.
3. Rice (in my opinion) wasn't too impressive in big games where his team really needed to step it up in the 2nd half.
4. He's gotten some multi star recruits but hasn't done anything with them yet. Seems premature to me.

1. Rice won't leave vegas for another college Basketball school because it's his dream job. He could possibly do it but I don't see it happening he has said for years he wants to be the coach at UNLV I don't see him turning away just because of money.

2. Fatigue, injury's also had a factor in stuff. I believe UNLV's achille's heel last year wasn't as much the 2nd go with teams as it was able to maintain composure in hostile enviroments. The team was a home team killer and mid level team on the road. That is part attidue and coaching though but to be fair those weren't rice's players. I don't think you can judge any coach with other coaches recruit.

3. Outside of the NCAA game and the game in the Pit I would say Rice won't his fair share of big games in the league and out of conference but it's to early to tell at this point. This would be akin to Lobo fans making a judgement on Alford or whoever after their first year coaching alot can change in just one year.

4. See above.

I think everyone to be fair needs to give him a few years to see what he can do, he could be the best coach in the world or the worst coach no one can tell. But you can't judge a coach on 1 year's of work.

[vegasErNN]

Agreed!
I would have waited to give Rice more money after a season or two.
1. $100,000 isn't enough money to prevent an upper tier school from snagging him out of Vegas.
2. After conference teams played UNLV once, they were able to adjust and have more success the second time.
3. Rice (in my opinion) wasn't too impressive in big games where his team really needed to step it up in the 2nd half.
4. He's gotten some multi star recruits but hasn't done anything with them yet. Seems premature to me.

The $100,000 was a "**** yeah, good **** so far." gesture.

As far as the rest I blame the mix of the system and players.

Everyone he has brought in is perfect for the running game style.

He landed the BEST class in MWC history. His first season. I guess you have to be a UNLV fan to understand why we felt like we were missing just a couple pieces of the puzzle to finish a lot better. Well, I think we've found them and so does our athletic department.

[LoboMike]

Since it's obvious that UNLV isn't putting any money into their football program, there's plenty there to give Rice a raise.

[sig570]

Since it's obvious that UNLV isn't putting any money into their football program, there's plenty there to give Rice a raise.

15. Pot
and
10. Kettle
http://www.freep.com/usatoday/articl...t%7CSports%7Cp

[Jeffinthe505]

the multi star recruits he got are all eligible this year. How could he do anything with his multi star recruits last year if they were not eligible last year or were still in HS?

Thats my point. Shouldn't they wait to see what he does before they give a pay raise?

[Jeffinthe505]

He landed the BEST class in MWC history. His first season.

Really? How can that even be measured right now?

[xanthos93]

It is a nice kiss on cheek by Admin. Does't move the meter much. As the Reb faithful have said, it's a recruiting bonus. If he doesn't produce a MWC championship in the next 2 years, the feckless Reb fans will be wanting a rebate.

[vegasErNN]

Really? How can that even be measured right now?

Let me rephrase. BEST recruiting class. My fault. Has potential to be the best class though.

[Roob]

1. Rice won't leave vegas for another college Basketball school because it's his dream job. He could possibly do it but I don't see it happening he has said for years he wants to be the coach at UNLV I don't see him turning away just because of money.

2. Fatigue, injury's also had a factor in stuff. I believe UNLV's achille's heel last year wasn't as much the 2nd go with teams as it was able to maintain composure in hostile enviroments. The team was a home team killer and mid level team on the road. That is part attidue and coaching though but to be fair those weren't rice's players. I don't think you can judge any coach with other coaches recruit.

3. Outside of the NCAA game and the game in the Pit I would say Rice won't his fair share of big games in the league and out of conference but it's to early to tell at this point. This would be akin to Lobo fans making a judgement on Alford or whoever after their first year coaching alot can change in just one year.

4. See above.

I think everyone to be fair needs to give him a few years to see what he can do, he could be the best coach in the world or the worst coach no one can tell. But you can't judge a coach on 1 year's of work.

Your last paragraph - we're in violent agreement. He can't be judged on year 1 - and that was my point. He may turn out to be coach of the year but we won't know for another 2 years. In 2 years, with the recruiting that he is doing, he should be highly successful on the court. Then he will deserve a $500K- $1M raise. If not successful with this kind of talent, then he will probably need to pursue a career in broadcasting.

[LoboMike]

15. Pot
and
10. Kettle
http://www.freep.com/usatoday/articl...t%7CSports%7Cp

We fired our inept FB coach and are sitting at 2-2 on this season as we build this thing back up. When are you guys going to get with the program???

[Jeffinthe505]

Let me rephrase. BEST recruiting class. My fault. Has potential to be the best class though.

Let ME rephrase. The game is played on the court. The BEST recruiting class will only be the best if they PRODUCE! So, again, how can that even be measured right now?
If they don't produce, will they then be considered the biggest BUST in MWC history?

[vegasErNN]

Let ME rephrase. The game is played on the court. The BEST recruiting class will only be the best if they PRODUCE! So, again, how can that even be measured right now?
If they don't produce, will they then be considered the biggest BUST in MWC history?

Then I guess Rivals, ESPN, Scout and others are just wasting their time analyzing and ranking these high school recruits. Because, obviously they don't mean anything, huh?

Like I said, Rice's raise means nothing more than a thank you so far. He's put the hype back in Vegas, the "Runnin" back in front of the Rebels. Getting the fans and players to buy into being a team and not one or two superstars. All of that and topped it off by getting several top high school recruits to come here and play.

You'll see the difference we already see by the end of November. There is a reason these players are so highly thought of around the nation.

[PreLawLobo]

Recruitment rankings mean nothing unless you are talking about the top 5-10 players.

[LynAskin]

Recruitment rankings mean nothing unless you are talking about the top 5-10 players.

But we ARE talking about top 5-10 players. Either way, we are getting pretty good bang for the buck in additional season ticket sales alone. Can he coach? Not sure yet.

[FONZ]

Since it's obvious that UNLV isn't putting any money into their football program, there's plenty there to give Rice a raise.

15. Pot
and
10. Kettle
http://www.freep.com/usatoday/articl...t%7CSports%7Cp

We fired our inept FB coach and are sitting at 2-2 on this season as we build this thing back up. When are you guys going to get with the program???

I don't want to get too off topic with this conversation since this is the basketball board, but by bringing up Sagarin's rankings for only three games of 2012 when the original comment had to do with UNLV not spending money on the football program, you're just way off sig570. First of all, these ratings by Sagarin don't have anything to do with money spent by either athletic department on their respective football programs. Second, who has UNM played compared to UNLV? UNM has played a FCS team, (we won), AT a top 15 Texas team, and AT Texas Tech who's receiving votes. UNLV lost all three of their (home) games when those rankings were posted... Minnesota, Washington State, and FCS Northern Arizona (really?). As far as I can tell, those rankings are based on wins/losses (ELO_CHESS) and points (PREDICTOR). Maybe the FCS games are even negated-giving UNLV the edge in these ratings for worst in FBS? Of course UNLV has had considerably easier opponents at home while UNM was expectedly drummed by ranked teams. All that matters when it concerns UNLV and UNM's football programs is the game we play this year... And if I remember correctly, our lone victory last year came over UNLV.

But I get off topic even within the OT comment. I would like to see the comparisons of the football budgets within the MWC. Doesn't UNLV have the biggest overall budget in the MWC though?

(BTW: Nice win over Air Force. The MWC looks wide open this year.)

[Jeffinthe505]

He's put the hype back in Vegas...

So far, that's all he's done.
I hope he can coach those kids because it will be good for the MWC.

[sig570]

I don't want to get too off topic with this conversation since this is the basketball board, but by bringing up Sagarin's rankings for only three games of 2012 when the original comment had to do with UNLV not spending money on the football program, you're just way off sig570. First of all, these ratings by Sagarin don't have anything to do with money spent by either athletic department on their respective football programs. Second, who has UNM played compared to UNLV? UNM has played a FCS team, (we won), AT a top 15 Texas team, and AT Texas Tech who's receiving votes. UNLV lost all three of their (home) games when those rankings were posted... Minnesota, Washington State, and FCS Northern Arizona (really?). As far as I can tell, those rankings are based on wins/losses (ELO_CHESS) and points (PREDICTOR). Maybe the FCS games are even negated-giving UNLV the edge in these ratings for worst in FBS? Of course UNLV has had considerably easier opponents at home while UNM was expectedly drummed by ranked teams. All that matters when it concerns UNLV and UNM's football programs is the game we play this year... And if I remember correctly, our lone victory last year came over UNLV.

But I get off topic even within the OT comment. I would like to see the comparisons of the football budgets within the MWC. Doesn't UNLV have the biggest overall budget in the MWC though?

(BTW: Nice win over Air Force. The MWC looks wide open this year.)

a previous poster talks about football like UNM are a bunch of world beaters; when in reality both of our teams suck in football. 4 wins in the last 3 years makes you no better than UNLV football.