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    Arkansas against UNC

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    This is a must-watch game. Hawgs are up 58-55 about midway through the second half. These boys are going at it. A great example of "effort" on both sides.

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    Arkansas prime example of how teams blow opportunities with very poor decisions...
    '...the Pit is just God awful uncomfortable for a visiting team.'

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    Exciting game to watch, but at times I wondered if it was basketball or grappling.

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    There's letting people play and there's what they let UNC get away with yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguelnavida View Post
    There's letting people play and there's what they let UNC get away with yesterday.
    What exactly did they let UNC get away with? Most people complained about how aggressive Arkansas played, which I had no problem with...the foul count certainly indicated that as well....just curious what you saw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkansasLobo View Post
    What exactly did they let UNC get away with? Most people complained about how aggressive Arkansas played, which I had no problem with...the foul count certainly indicated that as well....just curious what you saw!
    Several hand checks in the final 5 minutes, which, if I remember right, is a no no nowadays. As well as the obvious charge call on Berry near the end. If the refs had called a block, I would've been upset, but at least they would've acknowledged that an absurd amount of contact happened. But the refs just ate the whistle for a lot of the end of the game.

    Like, I feel like Arkansas choked the game away and probably would've lost, but North Carolina got some help they really didn't need.

    Edit: It wasn't egregious stuff like the Gonzaga/Northwestern game, but it was frustrating that two teams can play with the same aggressiveness and get different responses from the refs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguelnavida View Post
    Several hand checks in the final 5 minutes, which, if I remember right, is a no no nowadays. As well as the obvious charge call on Berry near the end. If the refs had called a block, I would've been upset, but at least they would've acknowledged that an absurd amount of contact happened. But the refs just ate the whistle for a lot of the end of the game.

    Like, I feel like Arkansas choked the game away and probably would've lost, but North Carolina got some help they really didn't need.

    Edit: It wasn't egregious stuff like the Gonzaga/Northwestern game, but it was frustrating that two teams can play with the same aggressiveness and get different responses from the refs.

    Yeah, if they correctly call that charge, then who knows? The hawgs were only down three at that point and that bad no-call killed them.

    Also, UNC played some amazing defense down the stretch. You have to credit them as well. There is a reason they are a 2 seed.

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    Arkansas' offense in that last minute was a joke...they did that much to themselves...
    '...the Pit is just God awful uncomfortable for a visiting team.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguelnavida View Post
    Several hand checks in the final 5 minutes, which, if I remember right, is a no no nowadays. As well as the obvious charge call on Berry near the end. If the refs had called a block, I would've been upset, but at least they would've acknowledged that an absurd amount of contact happened. But the refs just ate the whistle for a lot of the end of the game.

    Like, I feel like Arkansas choked the game away and probably would've lost, but North Carolina got some help they really didn't need.

    Edit: It wasn't egregious stuff like the Gonzaga/Northwestern game, but it was frustrating that two teams can play with the same aggressiveness and get different responses from the refs.
    If you watch the Berry play in slo mo you will see 2 things....Berry got fouled by the defender guarding him and then the defender in front of him swiped him across the face prior to any contact....did Berry push off...yes he did...did he get fouled before any of that happened....yes he did! So what call do you make???

    My BIG question from that game was what the heck was the call on the Meeks block that supposedly hit the end line....the officials reviewed it but then there was really no explanation for giving the ball to UNC....Meek's clearly touched the ball, there was still 1 second showing on the shot clock but they gave it to Carolina.....that call was the head scratcher!!!

    As far as the hand checks go.....really..you are going to base your comment on that!!! Both teams play fast, both teams got after it on D....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkansasLobo View Post
    If you watch the Berry play in slo mo you will see 2 things....Berry got fouled by the defender guarding him and then the defender in front of him swiped him across the face prior to any contact....did Berry push off...yes he did...did he get fouled before any of that happened....yes he did! So what call do you make???

    My BIG question from that game was what the heck was the call on the Meeks block that supposedly hit the end line....the officials reviewed it but then there was really no explanation for giving the ball to UNC....Meek's clearly touched the ball, there was still 1 second showing on the shot clock but they gave it to Carolina.....that call was the head scratcher!!!

    As far as the hand checks go.....really..you are going to base your comment on that!!! Both teams play fast, both teams got after it on D....
    Like I said before, I wouldn't have minded them calling a blocking foul; but with that much contact between three players, where one is swiping and one is pushing off, you should call something.

    Thank you for reminding me about the bad possession call. That was bad too.

    And yeah, I am upset about the hand checks, because good lord did they not allow anything close to that in the Iowa State / Purdue game or the Duke / South Carolina game. And I guarantee you that Butler / UNC won't be allowed to get to that level of physicality.

    Also, I'm not saying that North Carolina deserved to lose. Once they realized that they could match Arkansas physically, they were clearly the better team and deserved to win. Arkansas also choked, so it's not like they would come back or held on.

    I know you like both teams. This isn't an indictment on North Carolina basketball or something. I'm just stating that big name teams will often get a little extra benefit of the doubt, which (Gonzaga) can (Gonzaga) really help them. (Gonzaga)

    With that, I'll end with North Carolina is good and should make the final 4 at minimum. (I have them as champs if that makes you feel better)

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    Watching all of the NC/Arkansas game I think Arkansas got the better calls for the bulk of the game, but at the end UNC got one or two. I agree that the "charge" on Berry should never have been called because there should have been 1 (or maybe even 2) reach in fouls called before that point.

    It frustrates me that so many games ARE influenced by variable (or just plain BAD) officiating. I had no dog in that hunt, my rooting interests are UNM and Manhattan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo2x53 View Post
    Watching all of the NC/Arkansas game I think Arkansas got the better calls for the bulk of the game, but at the end UNC got one or two. I agree that the "charge" on Berry should never have been called because there should have been 1 (or maybe even 2) reach in fouls called before that point.

    It frustrates me that so many games ARE influenced by variable (or just plain BAD) officiating. I had no dog in that hunt, my rooting interests are UNM and Manhattan.
    Great point...and there have been a LOT of horrible officiating in this tournament!!!

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