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    Per Geoff Grammer

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    UNM coach Craig Neal just told me he has met w/ entire roster. Only Elijah Brown and Anthony Mathis have requested release to transfer #mwbb



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    OK. But remember he assured us that Goodman was also staying on board about a week before he left.

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    Yeah no way is this topic over. At least one more will leave.

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    Time will tell but until there is something definite, I caution regarding rumors - they can be very hurtful to the innocent. Also, the vulture circle hyperbole is potentially harmful beyond those some wish to harm. I suggest that we just allow this to play itself out and let the cards fall where they may. Speculation is seldom constructive. I see some are already interpreting what Grammer said Neal said (just because no one else has asked for their release is not an absolute).
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    Quote Originally Posted by VWolf View Post
    OK. But remember he assured us that Goodman was also staying on board about a week before he left.
    Wait, do you mean that sometimes he says things that turn out not to be true? Crap!

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    I can only hope for two high level star players to come to UNM to make us legitimate MWC Championship contenders. I don't think they exist but I hope Coach Neal proves me wrong.

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    Buckle down and get us some JC guys. A lot of them. Win now.

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    So that means that there will probably be a new SG in the mix next year or another combo PG who can shoot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNMLoboFan1 View Post
    Yeah no way is this topic over. At least one more will leave.
    That was pretty absolute, who is your source? Geoff had coach Neal.

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    Yeah, that has proven to be reliable... not.

    Quote Originally Posted by redrum View Post
    That was pretty absolute, who is your source? Geoff had coach Neal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrum View Post
    That was pretty absolute, who is your source? Geoff had coach Neal.
    Didn't mean to be so absolute. And also not gonna speculate who. But my point being that until the practices actually start, you never know who is gonna be on the team. Even Geoff says on his twitter that he has sources that 6 players on the team are looking at transferring. And just because Neal says now that no one else is transferring, doesn't mean it won't happen. I don't think anyone expects him to come out and say that the team has a number or players that are still thinking about leaving.

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    I certainly was not going to comment about Joe, based on a few unsubstantiated rumors. How does it make sense, him leaving? He will be a Senior and returns to the team with the most front court D-1 experience we have.

    The young man MUST believe in himself and bust his butt this offseason. If he does, he most likely starts and will see much time next year. He has a better opportunity here than elsewhere. Junior to Senior - committed - get after it!!!

    So far, we are losing 4 and have 4 arriving. I believe it is unfair to all others to speculate otherwise. This is mostly what I expected, even though I am sad to see Mathis and his sweet shot leaving. Good luck and best wishes young man.
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    If six actually leave we are worse than UNLV this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNMLoboFan1 View Post
    Didn't mean to be so absolute. And also not gonna speculate who. But my point being that until the practices actually start, you never know who is gonna be on the team. Even Geoff says on his twitter that he has sources that 6 players on the team are looking at transferring. And just because Neal says now that no one else is transferring, doesn't mean it won't happen. I don't think anyone expects him to come out and say that the team has a number or players that are still thinking about leaving.
    if the OP's paraphrasing of Grammer paraphrasing Neal is accurate, Neal just said no one else has asked for his release - that is not the same as no one else is leaving. Only time, not speculation will tell the tale. That is all we actually know.

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    If six are leaving, what does that tell you about "fan support"? Fans can be amazing or the best of the best. But there is a element that absolutely stinks (and I dont think its just the fanks like the coaches son lends us to believe). There is a sour grape and WE ALL KNOW WHO AND WHAT IT IS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNMLoboFan1 View Post
    Didn't mean to be so absolute. And also not gonna speculate who. But my point being that until the practices actually start, you never know who is gonna be on the team. Even Geoff says on his twitter that he has sources that 6 players on the team are looking at transferring. And just because Neal says now that no one else is transferring, doesn't mean it won't happen. I don't think anyone expects him to come out and say that the team has a number or players that are still thinking about leaving.
    Just checked GG's twitter and saw nothing about sources saying 6 players could leave. Please post the link that shows GG saying that....

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    https://twitter.com/GeoffGrammer/sta...07651474264065

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    Still a lot of time for a player(s) to decide to transfer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomerz View Post
    Just checked GG's twitter and saw nothing about sources saying 6 players could leave. Please post the link that shows GG saying that....
    Here it is...
    https://twitter.com/GeoffGrammer/sta...15809668112384

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublealum View Post
    if the OP's paraphrasing of Grammer paraphrasing Neal is accurate, Neal just said no one else has asked for his release - that is not the same as no one else is leaving. Only time, not speculation will tell the tale. That is all we actually know.
    You are absolutely right. There may be players who are not sure what they are doing. There are almost certainly players for whom the question "should I stay?" crossed their mind at least once. But too many on here are too far gone to be patent. And if someone else does leave they will be convinced Neal lied, even if that very same player told coach this morning that he is staying--and later changed his mind.

    Speculation is not helpful to the team. We will know soon enough. But again, the health of the team is not what some of the vocal fringe want--I have heard "fans" actually hope everyone leaves, hope the team goes 4-25 next season to both ensure Neal is gone and prove that they were right. Sad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UNMLoboFan1 View Post
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    I still think it's highly unlikely 6 leave. Look at Geoff's previous statement where he said he 'heard' 3 players were leaving last year and only Cullen left....

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    No offense but depending upon what kind of players CN can bring in, more can leave IMO.

    People keep saying CN recruiting has been good he is just a bad coach, but i just dont see the talent on this team that soooo many people around here talk about. Nowhere near the level Bliss or Alford was able to bring in as head coaches.

    Either way it is on the Coach to improve both the level of play AND the level of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomerz View Post
    No offense but depending upon what kind of players CN can bring in, more can leave IMO.

    People keep saying CN recruiting has been good he is just a bad coach, but i just dont see the talent on this team that soooo many people around here talk about. Nowhere near the level Bliss or Alford was able to bring in as head coaches.

    Either way it is on the Coach to improve both the level of play AND the level of players.
    Highly disagree. Other than Nevada, I believe we had the most talent in the MWC this year. We are a deep team of good players that haven't been coached or developed while at New Mexico

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    Transferring is a process that takes on many faces. Some players send feelers out, some players get "courtesy calls," some players get help from other resources. The process may take a week or several months.

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    [QUOTE=UNMLoboFan1;944773]Highly disagree. Other than Nevada, I believe we had the most talent in the MWC this year. We are a deep team of good players that haven't been coached or developed while at New Mexico[/QUOT

    That is certainly your perogative.

    But dont even try to tell me that - even with 'better coaching' -this group of players even comes close to the 4 years we had KT or Alford's 2 #3 seed teams. Those teams would kill the current roster. Even Chili Cheese fries team is much better (and tougher) than what we have on the roster. Disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNMLoboFan1 View Post
    Yeah no way is this topic over. At least one more will leave.
    At least.

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    The two that are graduating, and the news of EB & AM transferring is no surprise, or SHOULD be no surprise to anyone following this program. The scholarship situation is resolved as it always is. Anything else is pure speculation.

    P.S. I have it on record from a source I can't divulge, but word is that he's leaving too. Lol...
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    The two that are graduating, and the news of EB & AM transferring is no surprise, or SHOULD be no surprise to anyone following this program. The scholarship situation is resolved as it always is. Anything else is pure speculation.

    P.S. I have it on record from a source I can't divulge, but word is that he's leaving too. 樂

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    [QUOTE=Boomerz;944785]
    Quote Originally Posted by UNMLoboFan1 View Post
    Highly disagree. Other than Nevada, I believe we had the most talent in the MWC this year. We are a deep team of good players that haven't been coached or developed while at New Mexico[/QUOT

    That is certainly your perogative.

    But dont even try to tell me that - even with 'better coaching' -this group of players even comes close to the 4 years we had KT or Alford's 2 #3 seed teams. Those teams would kill the current roster. Even Chili Cheese fries team is much better (and tougher) than what we have on the roster. Disappointing.
    Of course not. That team had 3 NBA players and then Kendall who was great. It's rare for any program to have a roster like that.

    But with the talent we have, especially compared to the rest of the MWC, we should be finishing 1st or 2nd in the MWC and not be losing in the first round of every damn tournament we play in. If you want to defend Neal, feel free. But he has done an awful job here and is not a good head coach. plain and simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNMLoboFan1 View Post
    Highly disagree. Other than Nevada, I believe we had the most talent in the MWC this year. We are a deep team of good players that haven't been coached or developed while at New Mexico
    Completely disagree with this. We had nobody (save Tim) that showed up with any consistency. Even down to the last game several kids were no shows. Sure some of them had nice games here and there, but the true mark of 'talent' in college is doing it with a modicum of consistency....which our kids unfortunately couldn't muster.

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