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    Which Mountain West Conference football coaches on the hot seat

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    Notice the hook, line, and sinker way they all seemed to swallow Davie being guilty of things that very wrong.

    Davie will have a good year and keep his job.

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    Yes, because of the many, many years of sexual abuse by men in power without consequences & "blaming the victim " the pendulum has swung and we now are in an era of "guilty upon acquisition" for any alleged offense and trial by media. While I agree it's high time we as a society quit blaming the victim and quit sweeping under the rug sexual abuse or racial discrimination, it's a dangerous and unfair thing to not require some more objective and balanced process for determining an accused's fate than just an acquisition by whomever & conviction with condemnation by those that profit (media) by it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublealum View Post
    Yes, because of the many, many years of sexual abuse by men in power without consequences & "blaming the victim " the pendulum has swung and we now are in an era of "guilty upon acquisition" for any alleged offense and trial by media. While I agree it's high time we as a society quit blaming the victim and quit sweeping under the rug sexual abuse or racial discrimination, it's a dangerous and unfair thing to not require some more objective and balanced process for determining an accused's fate than just an acquisition & those that profit (media) by it.
    Agree completely, except it is not only the media who seek to profit whether the accusation is true or not. And when false accusers make up stories, the true accusations suffer a loss of credibility as well.

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    I like BD, I think the case may be overstated in the article, but if you think none of the off-field issues are going to matter, I think that you are naive. The vibe I get is that this current administration would love to pull the plug on him if given the chance.

    I hope to see progress on offense this year and improvement on defense, but it's not a given. The article is right, at least on paper, our recruiting class is kind of nondescript. Not horrible but not great, lower end of the spectrum in our conference. Changing offenses is never easy, I think it is the right thing to do but I also think it should have been happening gradually this whole time. If we flail this coming season, BD may not get a chance to right the ship.

    I start every year hopeful, and I do appreciate what BD has accomplished, but I don't think it is any exaggeration at all to say this is likely a make-or-break year for BD. Not personal, just reading the tea leaves, know what I mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muyguapo View Post
    I like BD, I think the case may be overstated in the article, but if you think none of the off-field issues are going to matter, I think that you are naive. The vibe I get is that this current administration would love to pull the plug on him if given the chance.

    I hope to see progress on offense this year and improvement on defense, but it's not a given. The article is right, at least on paper, our recruiting class is kind of nondescript. Not horrible but not great, lower end of the spectrum in our conference. Changing offenses is never easy, I think it is the right thing to do but I also think it should have been happening gradually this whole time. If we flail this coming season, BD may not get a chance to right the ship.

    I start every year hopeful, and I do appreciate what BD has accomplished, but I don't think it is any exaggeration at all to say this is likely a make-or-break year for BD. Not personal, just reading the tea leaves, know what I mean?
    Unfortunately, I have to agree that while there has been no objective substantiation of the accusations, in today's world, the claims will have an impact on any judgement of Davie's performance - unfair as hell imo.

    Regarding the recruiting class, I think these prognosticators are way off base in so far as the impact to this being a "make or break" year for Davie, not necessarily because they judge this class to be underwhelming but because they fail in their analysis of its relationship to this year's performance. 1st, many of this year's recruits are JCs who almost never are really judged by these so called recruiting gurus except superficially and 2nd almost all frosh are expected to redshirt. Far better to look at the two classes before this year's recruits and look at the needs addressed by the JCs. Very arguably, the two years before this one were Davie's best classes, especially last year's - these guys will be coming off of redshirt &/or have a year of special team & reserve play under their belts. The JCs for this year really seem to be concentrated on where our greatest needs are so they can fill some of the gaps we had last year while having some maturity and experience. Only time will tell of course but I think these so called experts don't know squat.

    Lastly, I will say that I think the greatest risk for Davie's continuance is the fact we have a new AD & President. Neither have any loyalty to him and have enough other controversies to deal with that they don't want to "own" the one's created by last year's accusations. Additionally, a new AD (especially from football country) always wants to have "his" guys at the top hires and football is definitely one of the top. The major mitigating factor is that the university can't really afford another buy out and new hire. It will be interesting but I'm very much hoping that we get to a bowl and all this bad BS talk turns to football talk.
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    I absolutely agree that Bob is on the hot seat. There is no way with the facilities we have relative to our conference brethren that a second season like last years would indicate the program is going the right direction. With the off field stuff and the plethora of proven coaches available Bob needs to have a respectable year imho.

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    Plethora of proven coaches available?
    HAMMER HAS SPOKEN

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    Saw a CBS article that stated Davie was 4 in total country..

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    From where we were under the coach before Davie to a bowl win a couple of years ago that's progress in my book. Given the injuries, taking a knee at halftime in one game, inexperience of the O line, no breakaway threat at RB, rumors about Davie being unfair to players, that all led to a bad season.

    Hopefully the Lobos can breakthrough and have a good season. Even if we don't make a bowl I think Davie will be back after 2018.

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