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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo_for_life View Post
    I'm surprised that the Elijah Brown comparison hasn't already been made in this thread.
    I'm not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNMerciful_1 View Post
    His game reminds me of Eric Chatfield.
    I also see similarity to Elijah Brown's skills

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    The skills, hopefully without the attitude... (though I wonder if a coach like Weir could have reigned in Elijah to draw out his full potential?

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    Quote Originally Posted by primordial View Post
    The skills, hopefully without the attitude... (though I wonder if a coach like Weir could have reigned in Elijah to draw out his full potential?
    I'm not sure Elijah would have bought in enough for that to happen, tbh. Talented player who could fit well with the style of play but, I don't see him flourishing under Weir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkil11 View Post
    I'm not sure Elijah would have bought in enough for that to happen, tbh. Talented player who could fit well with the style of play but, I don't see him flourishing under Weir.

    Brown played pretty decently under Altman, and that was under fairly tough circumstances (joining a team for one final year and coming off the bench). I don't think we can underestimate the effect that a poor head coach and a program in chaos can have on a player. Brown's second season at UNM was surely a result of how he was coached the previous season, and what was going on at the time. If we could take an exact clone of Brown who had just played a year at Butler, and Weir was our head coach, I'd take him in a heartbeat.

    An Elijah Brown comparison is not a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo_for_life View Post
    I also see similarity to Elijah Brown's skills
    A little taller and a better 3pt shooter version of

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    Much more physical player than Brown. More like D. Gary and Chatfield.


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    Elijah could be surprisingly physical for the finesse look he liked, but Dairese had the physical style that it appears that Zane appeared to have in the video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VWolf View Post
    Brown played pretty decently under Altman, and that was under fairly tough circumstances (joining a team for one final year and coming off the bench). I don't think we can underestimate the effect that a poor head coach and a program in chaos can have on a player. Brown's second season at UNM was surely a result of how he was coached the previous season, and what was going on at the time. If we could take an exact clone of Brown who had just played a year at Butler, and Weir was our head coach, I'd take him in a heartbeat.

    An Elijah Brown comparison is not a bad thing.
    I was not talking about his coach or even his performance while here. Purely and simply, i don’t think he would have bought in particular with regards to playing time.

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    All I have to say is there has been many times smaller schools have come to the PIT and if even they they lost, they had a player who lit it up. I would always ask myself, why couldn't my favorite college team pull one of these under the radar guys who were looked over by many. Hard to get some of these guys that are looked over by bigger schools back east as UNM may not be able to get to those areas in the east.

    Good to see the Lobos got one of these guys that seems to have great potential and also beat out some top schools who have better history than UNM. Great job coach.

    Welcome Zane. Look forward to you bring some pain to out rivals and conference foes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkil11 View Post
    I was not talking about his coach or even his performance while here. Purely and simply, i don’t think he would have bought in particular with regards to playing time.
    He did at Oregon though. He came off the bench and was fine with that.

    But nobody is saying that Brown and Martin are similar because they have the same personality are they? It makes no sense to expect someone with similar physical characteristics to feel the same way about playing time or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VWolf View Post
    Brown played pretty decently under Altman, and that was under fairly tough circumstances (joining a team for one final year and coming off the bench). I don't think we can underestimate the effect that a poor head coach and a program in chaos can have on a player. Brown's second season at UNM was surely a result of how he was coached the previous season, and what was going on at the time. If we could take an exact clone of Brown who had just played a year at Butler, and Weir was our head coach, I'd take him in a heartbeat.

    An Elijah Brown comparison is not a bad thing.
    Elijah Brown didn't go to Oregon to come off the bench but what was he supposed to do as a grad transfer, not play at all? I watched Oregon every chance I got and to me it often looked like EB was frustrated. Worst thing to happen to him was getting badly injured from which he was never the same player athletically.

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    I would suspect that that he could have easily been frustrated. I am sure he thought it would be a fresh start and that he would have a great last year. Elijah had a great amount of talent, it is too bad that he ran into the wrong coach here. Hopefully, he gets what he wants out of life, whether on the court or somewhere else.
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    Saw he is playing Summer League with the Warriors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JulieG View Post
    I would suspect that that he could have easily been frustrated. I am sure he thought it would be a fresh start and that he would have a great last year. Elijah had a great amount of talent, it is too bad that he ran into the wrong coach here. Hopefully, he gets what he wants out of life, whether on the court or somewhere else.
    based on some reports it sounds like maybe he ran into the wrong crowd here, also.

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    Welcome Zane!

    Really good pickup this late in the year. Should bring us a steadying force next year.






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    Why are we still talking about Elijah Brown? Let's focus on who is part of our future, rather than focusing on who was part of the past, a past that was filled with turmoil under a different coaching regime?

    I'm inZanely excited to have Mr. Martin aboard to help propel us to the Sweet 16 and beyond. Welcome Zane! Thank you Coach Weir for bringing in some serious talent to develop and be an important part of Lobo Nation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VWolf View Post
    He did at Oregon though. He came off the bench and was fine with that.

    But nobody is saying that Brown and Martin are similar because they have the same personality are they? It makes no sense to expect someone with similar physical characteristics to feel the same way about playing time or whatever.
    I already said his physical characteristics would fit, did I not? I stated as much in my first post. I'm not sure why you are mentioning that as it is an agreed point.

    From my perspective, personality would certainly be a factor into whether he would click with the coach or flourish in an environment. I don't think his personality would fit, which was my point. So, I do not discount that. Sounds like you disagree. That's fine, to each their own. I can agree to disagree. I still stand by my statement. I do not believe Brown would have flourished here under Weir. There is nothing wrong with that. Not everyone will fit, even if physically they are coach's style of play.

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